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Because today it's not any more about
taglines or police marketing materials and impressions.
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It's about human connections, and so
peer to peer will become the platform where
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this can happen. You're listening to
the Higher Ed Marketer, a podcast geared
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towards marketing professionals in higher education.
This show will tackle all sorts of questions
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related to student recruitment, don'tor relations, marketing trends, new technologies and so
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much more. If you are looking
for conversations centered around where the industry is
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going, this podcast is for you. Let's get into the show. Welcome
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to the High Ed Marker podcast.
My name is Troye singer and each week,
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with the help of Bart Taylor,
we try to bring to the high
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rate community marketers that we admire or
ideas that we think would be helpful to
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the higher rate community. Today we're
going to talk about peer to peer platforms
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with Diego Fanara. He is the
CO founder and CEO of Una Buddy,
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which is a company that is gaining
momentum here in the states. Yeah,
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try it's it's going to be a
great conversation. I really like Diego.
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He's got some he's got some firsthand
knowledge and I think that his story,
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being an international student, he's originally
from and helped, he'll go into this,
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originally from France and and then grew
up in Switzerland but wanted to to
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attend a UK or US school and
kind of coming in as an international student,
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the idea of wanting to connect with
his affinity group even in the admissions
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process and the enrollment process. And
I don't think diegos alone, because obviously
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the platform that he has helped found
and build and it's, you know,
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one of many that are out there. But you know, buddy allows schools
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to be able to engage and provide
a structure and scalable experience for peer to
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peer networking so that, you know, a student who's coming in can connect
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with other students that are similar to
them, whether they're from this the same
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state, whether they're studying the same
program whether maybe they're an international student who
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we always talk about. That in
high red marketing is that, you know,
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once we get somebody to apply,
how in the funnel can we make
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sure that they get connected to the
right group? Sometimes that happens on the
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campus tour, sometimes that happens with, you know, just student ambassadors can
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connections, but these peer to peer
platforms have emerged that really provide structure and
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scalability that allows the US, as
marketers, to be able to manage that
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and to kind of, you know, intentionally do that so that we can
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increase the yields throughout the funnel.
Although Diego does represent a specific company,
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I believe he does a great job
of describing the advantages of the type of
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platform that they represent overall. So
I think there's a lot to glean from
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this and, without further ado,
let's ring in Diego. We are honored
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to welcome Diego Fanera to the show. He is the cofounder and CEO of
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Una Buddy and he is also talking
to us from another continent. Welcome to
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the show, Diego. Hi Try
it's great to be here. Thank you,
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if you would. For our listeners, if you could tell us a
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little bit about you, your company
and your role as CEO of Uni Buddy.
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Sure so. I'm, as you
say, from another continent right now.
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I'm based in London. was actually
born in France. They grew up
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in Switzerland and, as an international
students, dreamed of studying finance in the
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UK or in the US. And
that's how the idea of Uni Buddy and
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peer to peer and marriage while I
was going through this transition of looking for
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universities and being unsure of how to
do this. And so the concept of
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UNIBODY is powering community, connecting perspective
students with current students to share attending information
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so that prospective students can have the
right information and autentic insights to know how
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it's like to be in the university. And so unibody cells software to admission
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offices so that they can leverage the
power of community to increase their yelled while
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doing this connection happen. That's great. Thank you, Diego I. I've
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been following you a buddy for several
months now and I've been impressed. I
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know that you're developing quite a presence
here in the US with with several schools,
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and I'll just encourage the audience if
they want to learn more about that,
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they can go to the unibuddy website
and see that. But I think
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today we want to really kind of
focus on, you know, this idea
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of allowing perspective students kind of a
glimpse into into the student life and to
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what what you know, what everyday
life is like. And you know,
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schools have tried to do that over
the years with blogs and with even with
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some of their social media accounts.
But I think there's something about the idea
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and the advantage of these affinity groups
in higher education enrollment, you know,
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kind of kind of with the idea
of being able to identify the perspective student
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and their affinity and then be able
to match them up with, I guess,
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what you would call student ambassadors from
the university. So tell us a
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little bit about that. I mean, I think a lot of times it's
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kind of like the idea of connecting
students with their tribe, that they are,
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you know, naturally a part of. Yes, that that's so true,
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and that come back to the purpose
of what drove into this. It's
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the importance of community and tribe.
We believe that students consider an institution because
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of their course, because of their
location or a lot of parameters, but
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they convert for the community and they
stay at the institution because they feel that
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they'd belong. And so what they
need these to be able to see what
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the community is like, to meet
peers and appear someone of the same age,
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background or ability as another person.
It could be someone who shares experiences
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and similarities with yourself and in higher
education. This is an incredibly powerful notion
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because, all in all, it
don't furs the more level playing field and
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uses the power of student diversity to
connect people. So having those trusted voice
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for students who of who they can
assimilate themselves, this is where you can
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rise above the those to meet someone
who's currently experiencing this life and and aspires
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for themself, and that's when that
connection happened. It unleash students to have
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clarity and confidence to make their leap
and make the right decisions. I think
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that's great and it reminds me of
the classic statement that I hear from from
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enrollment officers and admissions professionals is that, boy, if we can get them
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on campus for that campus visit,
we can usually. I mean statistics show
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like eighty ninety percent of students who
do a campus visit will matriculate, and
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I think what's fascinating to me is
that you've created a platform that kind of
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takes a lot of the aspects that
happen in that campus visit, which are
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people kind of recognizing and identifying that
I can fit in here, I can
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see my tribe. Maybe they're engaging
with tribes and a lot of schools like
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to kind of have a kind of
immersive campus visit where they maybe spend the
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night in a dorm with some student
hosts. Well, that's a chance again
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to do that peer to peer connection
and I think what's fascinating to me is
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that you're kind of taking some of
those aspects that we would find traditionally in
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a campus visit and especially in light
of Covid in light of maybe international students
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or even students who are, you
know, not within a constant, centric,
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real close location. You're taking this
peer to peer platform and really turning
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that into an advantage for the schools
to really start creating some of the same
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emode of connections that they have on
those traditional campus visits. Is that?
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Is that kind of what you think? Yes, I mean definitely. This
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is where we're trying to use digital
and technology to make what universities were already
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doing, but at scale, and
not that scale in a way so that
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we just allowed them to spend less
time and so we just use technology to
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replace all human connection. It's actually
to scale one to one intimacy, and
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that's what students wamped. Students don't
want scale, and that's why thousands of
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perspective students email the admission team because
they prefer this intimacy of a wantowin conversation,
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either by email or by coming on
campus. And so student to student
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marketing as the role of allowing effectively
scaling intimacy of those campus visit for students
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that are not able to join the
campus because they leave far away or out
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of first states or internationally. And
so when we think of building Uni Buddy
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softwarees, either if it's our peer
to peer chats or Uni Buddy events platform
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that we have, it's always with
the mind of how can we scale intimacy,
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and the best way to date ever
this it's to invite students to be
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marketers themselves and be able to position
the institution. I love that idea,
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as the student be marketers. I
mean so many times I think that even
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thirty, forty years ago, when
I was in college, I remember being
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working in the admissions office as a
student. I would go on the camp
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teams or I would be there for
student visits and I was, you know,
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kind of a student ambassador, but
I think this takes it to a
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different level because, you know,
I was I was there, but I
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was I think what your software is
allowing them to do is to build those
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relationships in a dynamic way that fits
today's world, and the student ambassadors really
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become more of the true ambassadors,
where they're actually rather than just giving a
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tour, they're actually, you know, speaking on behalf of the university,
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and I think that, if I'm
correct, you know, your platform and
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probably others like yours, create systems
that allow the students to be able to
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have the freedom to have those conversations, but within the context of having some
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checks and balances in there as well. That is that is so true.
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And a conversation on a peer to
peer platform like Uni Buddy is like chatting
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with your future and with someone that
you can you can trust, and so
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that's where you feel the freedom to
ask anything in a safe space. That
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really will shape your decision. And
I think that when, by accepting that
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we're no longer in control of the
of the student decision making journey, we
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open ourselves to the diversity of student
to student conversation. At the end of
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the day, when people feel that
they can hear from others like themselves.
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That's where trust the marriage and trust
is what great communities are built on.
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That's great. I love that and
it really sounds to me like you're empowering
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the students, the perspective, students, to make the right decisions, but
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you're also empowering those student ambassadors to
really buy in more to the school themselves,
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and I think that's going to really
lead to a better relationship as an
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alumni and as a donor and things
like that. So that's that's great.
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I think that's been a's that's wonderful. Wonderful Way to kind of take advantage
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of the's affinity groups. Troy,
would love to hear some specific examples.
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You the concept sound wonderful, but
to help the listeners understand by offering some
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things that have happened that were winds
for enrollment teams utilizing UN buddy. Yes,
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so it's a great question, Troy, and what we're always asking institutions
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is impact on the value proposition of
why they're buying anybody and why they're buying
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you anybody in the first place.
It's to increase enrollment, build and also
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the summer melt. You know that
drop out before enrolment and of course this
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is where the power of tribes,
community, peer to peer comes in,
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where we allow prospective students to build
that sense of belonging and this affinity with
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the institution. And so we've seen
an or case case study with some institutions
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like Sant John's university USC that's seen
there the rise of yield true unibody from
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fifteen percent to twenty seven percent or
or at deposit rate or sixty six percent
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increase of involvement yield. It's been
awesome to see those case studies across so
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many institutions. But it's also definitely
on the number. But then when you
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talk to the students, that's where
we also go back to the user and
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see how meaningful those conversation has been. And what we love seeing is when
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our prospective students and become themselves student
ambassadors when they joined institutions because they took
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so much pride in hearing about the
student to student that then when they enroll
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at the university they come and that
I hey, can I also become a
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student ambassadors? I want to give
back and I think that's what Bark your
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mentioning that then we can follow this
still the alumni and feeling really part of
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the institution community for life. Yeah, I think that's great and I really
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love the fact that I'm guessing.
I mean you've governed some great, great
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statistics there with kind of fifteen to
twenty seven percent on the yield them.
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I'm sure there's different places in the
funnel, whether it's, you know,
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like you said, from you know
accepted to deposit, what those being able
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to have the student ambassador program and
the kind of the peer to peer conversations
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at that point, and then even
from from that deposit to the enrollment in
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the matriculation there's I think it's so
powerful for that. But I have to
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probably even believe, and you might
have some case studies for this, that
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those students who participated through a tool
like this probably are going to be better
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retention students because they feel a part
of the community. I mean, I
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know one of the challenges a lot
of a lot of schools have is that
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you know you have that, you
know they have a summer melt already,
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but then you have kind of that
melt from first semester to second semester where
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a lot of students never really got
plugged in. They never really got connected
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in that tribe and so they end
up, you know, leaving and retention
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rates go down. And so I
have to believe that a peer to peer
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network like this, even at the
beginning, in the prospect of student stage
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and then the enrollment stage, really
impact student life later on with with retention.
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Was that? Is that correct?
Yeah, definitely, and and that's
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related to do uni buddies mission,
which is to empower every students to make
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the right decisions through their higher education
journey. And so it's about a journey
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and wherever you catch the student journey, we seen your community to belong,
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that's where you want to have more
like you would for them to stay before
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enrollment, post involvement. They just
feel these ex tray irrational affinity with your
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with the institutions and and be part
of this Diego for and en Roman executive.
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That the sounds interesting to however,
maybe not knowing if this would be
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applicable to them, what is a
quick hit or maybe a thought that you
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would give them in order for them
to think about it differently or become more
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interested enough to look into peer to
peer platforms that try it's a good question.
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So if they believe that community can
change and impact the way students make
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decisions and how we can shape their
confidence in enjoining their institutions, then I
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see that peer to peer becomes the
platform for any student admission officers or marketer
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who are like to say could the
community architect and be compared to to the
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director of a play, which means
that they would set the stage, the
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environment and give their student community the
platform, which means the tool and training
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refer sources so they can talk to
prospective students. And then that means they
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can get out of the way,
because today it's not any more about taglines
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or police marketing materials and impressions,
it's about human connections, and so peer
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to peer will become the platform where
this can can happen and they can architect
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this community to shape the the the
student belonging. I love that and I
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love the fact that you're talking about
as a platform, because it's interesting.
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I mean post pandemic. Now,
I remember we had started using zoom in
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our business maybe four or five years
ago and you know, it was a
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platform that we used. It was
something that was helpful for us because we
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have kind of, you know,
different people around different locations. We're not
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we're not centralized. It's a virtual
agency. But during zoom, the during
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a pandemic, zoom became a whole
different thing. It became kind of a
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ubiquitous tool that was just part of
everyday life. I mean, I might
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have a either Microsoft word or Google
docs that I use every day. Now
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I'm using zoom every day in the
same way. It's just it's just part
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of my entire tool set and I
kind of believe that platforms like you know,
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buddy, are going to be part
of that entire tool set as well.
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I mean, you know we talked
about you. Every admissions office has
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a nice crm, whether they're using
slate or something like lead squared or sales
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force. You know, they've got
those tools. They've got the tools of
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male tools, they've got, you
know, texting, they've got all these
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different tools. I think that platforms
like you know, buddy, are going
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to have to be one of those
tools going forward post pandemic. Because mean,
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whether we like it or not,
there's been a shift in the way
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that traditional enrollment happens. I mean
decrease and campus tours are going on.
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You know, test optional is going
on as far as the way students are
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being able to be marketed to,
and so I think that the importance of
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increasing that yield percentage is going to
be so critical to admissions professionals and enrollment
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professionals. It's going to be,
you know, because a lot of students
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are making decisions without ever setting a
foot on campus. Is that? Is
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that kind of what you think?
To Diegos, that kind of where you're
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going with it? Yeah, definitely, and and I definitely see unibody,
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all of the tools that you mention
not replacing anything, but more as an
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enabler that that's something that was already
existing. And so today two thirds of
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marketing happens in touch points outside of
our control. But even if we are
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not on this stage, because students
talk to each other on those new tools,
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we're still very much part of the
production, and so it's not about
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sharing our knowledge and help turn the
student ambassadors into powerful content creators. So
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the more powerful the community, the
greater its ability to move its members to
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belong, and so it all comes
down to an enablement rather than replacing anything,
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and the once we see this way, then that's how we can leverage
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a maximum benefits from those tools like
appear to be your platform and you anybody,
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Diego, we appreciate you bringing the
information about peer to peer platforms and
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introducing our constituency to them. Before
we sign off, would there be any
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other points that you would like to
make on behalf of the community that you
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represent? Now I look, I
think the market is adapted so well during
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this pandemic. They really adapted to
a digital well that was unknown for a
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lot of people, and I feel
we're all going in the right direction at
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the right speed, and so I'm
very pleased to see how the market is
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getting together themselves as a community to
make it happen so that we can really
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impact students lives and as leaders of
this sector, we're setting the stage.
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We want our student communities to do
what it does best. It's shaping the
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decisions that set young people on the
path to their future, and so I'm
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really confident that will make it happen
by leveraging everything that we have around us.
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Thank you, Diego. If someone
would like to reach you, but
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would be the best way for them
to reach out to you? So my
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email is diego at unibuddycom. But
and and the best world. The wise
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to reach our team is to go
on our website, Uni Buddycom you and
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I be you, double Dy.
So yeah, we're trying to build buddies
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all around the world to reach out
and announcer all the the deepest question that
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prospects might have. Love it and
thank you very much for again bringing the
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peer to peer platform ide enabling us
to get it out to our listeners.
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Bard. Well, you have any
comments before we sign off this episode?
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Yeah, I really like a lot
of what Diego talked about. I think
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that this peer to peer platform is
such a great idea and such a powerful
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way for institutions to be able to
really increase and enhance the relationships and really
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increase and enhance. You know that
that a lot of what's already going on.
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I loved the Egos Point about the
fact that, you know, it's
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like a play and we might be
the directors in the enrollment office, but
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at the end of the day we're
not the actors that are that are actually
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doing the the communication, that the
emotion, that the dynamic tribe building.
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But I think a tool like you, nobuddy, allows allows that direction to
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take place. It provides a platform
for that. It provides the means and
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tools to be able to manage those
student ambassadors in a way that's that's meaningful.
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It's a way that kind of keeps
them in boundaries. You know,
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certainly one way you could do peer
to peer networking is just to say hey,
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student ambassadors, the end of the
tour, you know, give out
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your text you know your cell phone
numbered everybody on the tour and let them
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text you. Well, that's certainly
one way to do it, but a
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tool and a platform like you know, Buddy, actually allows you to scale
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it. It allows you to make
it more professional and allows you to kind
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of put those bumpers in place so
that you know, you know what's going
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on, you can understand it and
you can provide that that freedom for your
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ambassadors to encourage them to be themselves, but you also have a little bit
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more direction to it, and so
I really really appreciated that. So,
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you know, I think it's great. I would encourage everyone to look into
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this, these types of platforms,
because I do think it's going to be
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a big part of hired marketing going
forward. I Agree Bart. I also
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would invite anyone who either has experience
with peer to peer or has done research
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on it, to share with us
what your opinions or your experience is.
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So thank you, barked, and
also thank you Diego, and good luck
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to you and UNA. Buddy.
Thank you so much driving me. It
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was great. That brings us to
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